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Vinyl Top Installation
Bob VC has done this installation on his charger and has agreed to let the board use his pics and he will write some instructions on how he did the installation. THX Bob 1 Prep- Any dents will show through the vinyl. A nicely finished surface is important. Clean the roof. Four spray cans of 3M Super Trim Adhesive -08090 at $14 ea.(Very expensive, but it works. The top stuck easily in spots I assumed would be dificult. Follow directions on the can.) Plastic drop sheets, paper and tape. Tips- Let overspray dry 20 min before trying to remove it. Use material with dry adhesive on it that will stick to and pull off the overspray. February 2001 Mopar Muscle has a installation article in it. I deviated some. 2 The vinyl is wrinkled from being boxed, and everything I've read insists upon soaking it in the sun to remove wrinkles and make it workable. The wrinkles didn't come out. July 26, 2001 ready to start installing the top. Outside in the sun the black color vinyl was so hot I could not smooth and position it with my hands. Back inside goes the car. With it 80 in the shade the vinyl was very flexible and easy to work. 3 Tape perimeter of the area where vinyl will go to make a defined line where the adhesive will stop. Trim holes were a perfect guide on the sail panel/quarter. Half the hole is taped and half open. Stainless under the roof rail is taped, and not the roof rail. Tape below the windshield pillar half way under where the small stainless trim would be. Tape the window chanel where the gasket and window seal to it. Position the vinyl top on the roof and the pillar seams 2-3" down the windshield pillars. Measure the two main seams to center it side-side: 1-at the front of the roof rail to the vinyl seam(over the outside mirrors.) 2-at the sail panel to the seams(very back over rear window.) Repeat, and recheck that both sides are the same measurement. Clamp the vinyl top to the window chanel in the front and rear. What-your windows are in? Use a ratcheting nylon strap from the front to the rear chanel. Use a softener under the hook to protect the vinyl. ---------------------------------------------
4 Spray adhesive down the center front to rear. (Photo 4 shows adhesive not covering to the front and rear edge. It would be better to do it all now. Photo 6 shows the unnecessary extra step.) Stand on a chair and lean on the vinyl at the roof rail to keep it from moving away. Reach under the vinyl in the center and unfold/roll an inch over the adhesive. Press down and always away, and work from center to rear. Then from center to front. Unfold an inch at a time, and repeat-rubbing from center to rear, and center to front. Inspect the laid area continuously. Rub out high spots. Don't rub-in sharp wrinkles, just pull up the vinyl and try again. All the wrinkles in the vinyl came out and don't show after rubbing and pressing by hand. 5 Protect the vinyl before spraying more adhesive. 6 The extra step caused by not spraying center fully from front to rear. --------------------------
7 Spray adhesive on the roof, and in/on the roof rail, and down the outside of the sail panel. Do all the broad wide surfaces, and hand rub away from center toward edges. Use a plastic spatula(or?) and tuck the vinyl down into the roof drip rail gutter and rub it in. It will stretch to go over the quarter window curve. Pull down over outside rail edge and rub it on. Finish the other side. 8 Pull vinyl straight up to fold back on the finished drip rail vinyl. Cut with a razor blade from inside the fold straight down and staying flush against the drip edge. 9 Make a cut at the back end of the drip rail as relief. Trim the vinyl at the quarter window corner so there is a half inch to tuck in toward the glass and stick down. Fold the quarter vinyl back up on it's self and trim the same way(easy-don't stick the razor into the paint job!) The finished edge should line up with the center of the holes the stainless trim clips in(top of the tape.) Spray adhesive around the top of the rear window chanel and the inner sail panels. Stick the vinyl from the center of the rear window into the chanel out toward the corner and stop with the seam in the vinyl. Rub on the first half inch inside the sail. Then start near the top of the rear window corner and push/stretch vinyl down into corner a quarter inch at a time. This way will pull slack from further down the sail up toward the corner. Rub the sail and chanel down. Trim with razor. ---------------------------------------------
10 Apply adhesive for front chanel and pillars. Rub the vinyl to the pillar from top down. Continue from the drip rail down to the bottom of the pillar. Stick down over the outside of rail. 11 Work vinyl into the chanel corner with the plastic spatula. Work the rest of the chanel down pillar, and over to the center of the windshield. Trim edges. Leave some extra vinyl at the bottom of the pillar. When installing stainless trim cut it to fit. Get a pin and search for emblem holes, and trim screw holes. 12 Supper time...! ---------------------------------------------
Removing old vinyl top: You might need this post before you do the install!!! And remember, anything under the vinyl will 'show-up' after the car sits in the sun for awhile. So get the top clean before you start. carl ============================================ 318coronut New Member Posts: 21 From: Woodridge,IL,U.S. Registered: Jan 2002 posted 06-24-2002 05:05 PM My dad and I are going to be removing the beat up vinyl top on my 70 coronet, so I can save some money by doing some of the prep work. I was just looking for some advice on how to do this succesfully. I am not sure how easy it will be to remove the trim pieces and the actual top so any suggestions will be appreciated. =========================================== WingCars Moparts Member Posts: 1166 From: Cherry Hill New Jersey USA Registered: Aug 2001 posted 06-24-2002 05:32 PM The vinyl top goes under the top windshield trim.Which is clipped on.The other mouldings bolt on.I have used a variable setting heat gun.And a scrap =========================================== bee1971 New Member Posts: 86 From: green bay,wisconsin Registered: Mar 2002 posted 06-24-2002 10:16 PM im working on a 71 charger as we speak-first time-the hardest part was front and back windshield moldings,like he said they use clips,but they put in when windshield sealant was still wet,so a little difficult,i used a big putty knife or scraper,so i wouldnt bend mouldings.vinyl top just pulled right off no problem,now i have to scrape around windshield and back glass where vinyl was set in sealant.actually went pretty good,now i have to find some molding clips-little white plastic-and some windshield molding clips-ordered from legendary auto,best price,hopefully here in a few days.a little nervous about installing new one,we will see what happens ============================================ FishNmoparZ Moparts Member Posts: 226 From: Suburb of Chicago,Illinois,USA Registered: Dec 2001 posted 06-25-2002 02:19 AM I've found that once you pull the material off, that acrylic enamel reducer will take the old adhesive off real well. I used it on a Dart roof and helped my bro-in-law take off adhesive from vinyl decals that had been on his International Scout. ============================================ sitkadog Moparts Member Posts: 130 From: Oregon Registered: Feb 2002 posted 06-25-2002 11:46 PM If you don't know how to pull the trim off without bending it talk to a windshield installer. It is pretty easy if you have a good tool though. Let your car sit out in the sun until the the top is hot. Start rippin. It should come off in large sections. Use laquer thinner to clean up the goo. You can have it in the shade for that part. =========================================== mopar dad Moparts Member Posts: 2551 From: staten island, new york USA Registered: Jan 2002 posted 06-27-2002 01:50 PM laquer thinner to clean up the goo =========================================== info provided by members listed above
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